JP: I’ll tell you what I responded to. In the last two paragraphs, the tears sort of jumped to my eyes, but I realized that it wasn’t the deaths, oddly enough, that I was responding to – it was the bravery of the old poet, staggering around.
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SK: Yeah, but when fiction works for me it works on an emotional level first
and an intellectual level second. If you say that tears jumped to your eyes,
even if they were metaphorical tears –
JP: They weren’t. They were physical tears.
SK: Oh …
JP: I sniffed a little bit.
SK: (laughs) That’s good. Well, James, it was all made up.